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Historia / [Police] Old map of Police searched
« dnia: Października 10, 2010, 22:37:13  »
Cytat: "yak"
Langsam, langsam, aber sicher...


I don't unterstand.

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Historia / [Police] Old map of Police searched
« dnia: Października 10, 2010, 22:12:16  »
cool, the houses on the right side or the farm on the left?

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Historia / [Police] Old map of Police searched
« dnia: Października 10, 2010, 20:54:21  »
Cytat: "lukasz_s"
yeah, true, but the prussian land reports are little bit older than your relatives memory- grand aunt and the cousins should remember the street's name and the number better- at least it was their farm!

Marked object on the left- tall and cubic- isn't it a windmill?


No, it was the farm of their grandparents. And they were talking about a mill in the near.
"Schp." means shed. May be a part of a farm.

The Prussian Land Reports were converted to "Kataster".  I have prussian reports of 1820 for western Germany. They are very detailed. Buying and selling land were reported for each person.

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Historia / [Police] Old map of Police searched
« dnia: Października 10, 2010, 15:17:50  »
I don't think so, there must be a map called "Pölitz-Nord 170".
Today i will ring up the son of my grandfather cousin. He was at Jasenitzer Strasse years ago.

[ Added: 2010-10-10, 16:47 ]
He told me, that the houses were near "Tor D" of Hydrierwerk.
Basement of House existed before 1990, there were birch in the garden.

[ Added: 2010-10-10, 20:15 ]
A second chance is to search for the land surveying reports. Prussian crown did a land messurement. All records a written into the land register.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preu%C3%9Fische_Uraufnahme

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Historia / [Police] Old map of Police searched
« dnia: Października 10, 2010, 14:45:27  »
I think, we need an official street map of northern Pölitz.

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Historia / [Police] Old map of Police searched
« dnia: Października 10, 2010, 12:28:36  »
Cytat: "yak"
You're right!
This is the right place.

View the map here:
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/8194/bild100k.jpg



There must be a mistake. According to the adressbook, house number 1 was located to Fuhrstrasse. You drew number 4 nearer to city than number 1.
But this rest of house you found, is this basement?

This big picture I already know. I have a smaller version ;-)

On the right, this must be the houses mentioned in the addressbook. On the left, may be this was the farm "Kuckuck".

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Historia / [Gmina Police] Pieczęcie urzędowe z Polic i okolic
« dnia: Października 09, 2010, 18:51:02  »
This above are not postal stamps/ postmarks.
There are used by municipal offices etc.

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Historia / [Gmina Police] Pieczęcie urzędowe z Polic i okolic
« dnia: Października 09, 2010, 18:13:56  »
Seal overview:



Siegel Standesamt / Siegel Kirchengemeinde



Civil Office VII of Stettin, with tax stamp (Verwaltungsgebühr) / 1945
Standesamt VII Stettin, mit Gebührenstempel

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Historia / [Police] Old map of Police searched
« dnia: Października 09, 2010, 13:02:27  »
Thank you for this maps. Unfortunately there is no official map of the norther part.

But now, we know the starting point of Jasenitzer Strasse. Based on the information of my grandfathers cousin, I drew a map:


Houses were 1 km away from Fuhrstrasse.




Pölitz 1938. Red=Fuhrstrasse. Blue=Jasenitzer Strasse. Yellow=place of houses.

In the yellow area must be left the old basement of one house. Cousin told, that in war burning oil was running down the street. So I think, this place was higher.

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Historia / [Police] Old map of Police searched
« dnia: Października 08, 2010, 15:05:12  »
Is anyone be able to obtain a copy of it? Unfortunately I am living 600 km away.

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Historia / [Police] Old map of Police searched
« dnia: Października 08, 2010, 11:55:31  »
Cytat: "yak"
It remains to come to the city Politz. We can help in the search.

PS Your question 4.
Answer:
There is not. Destroyed.


Who did scan the old south part of Pölitz street map?

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Historia / [Police] Photo of Mühlenstrasse
« dnia: Października 08, 2010, 11:53:58  »
Cytat: "yak"
We have a problem.
There is no longer of old houses. There are only a few old buildings.
Here are two photos.
From the market in the direction of the church.
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/7024/police10.jpg
And from the church in the direction of the market.
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/8681/police09.jpg
Greetings.


ok thx

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Historia / [Police] Photo of Mühlenstrasse
« dnia: Października 07, 2010, 19:46:21  »
Hello!

I am looking for old and new photos of Mühlenstrasse number 37 and 82.
In 37 there was a house, which front was like a tower and the rest was a lower part with a flat roof. The neighbor was the backery "Kuhfuss".

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Historia / [Police] Old map of Police searched
« dnia: Października 07, 2010, 19:33:26  »
Cytat: "Kuba"
Translating yak's message:

1. First of all, if we are talking about left od right site of Jasenitz Straße we must say where we see from. If from Police to Jasenitz - houses with numbers 1-4 were not on the left side of street, but on the right.
Where these houses were? Opposite to todays remains of former petrol station, a workshop on the right side is located in the last saved building, former cowhouse. It has number 4a and propably it mirrors  numbers before II World War (or it was only "a" added). In this place were 4 buildings, 3 closer to street, one further. Near, but on area of premises, was entry to underground shelter, which mouth went to shore of canal. This shelter had been heaped,  when came present owner (80's of 20th century). The old well was also heaped.

2. From handwritten Kristin Maronn's map results, that Fuhrstr., went to present Dubois Str. (former Bugenhagenweg), which crossed. Precisely this juction still exists: straight ahead we go to the chemistry factory and Jasenitz, right - in direction of gardens and harbour. This junction was named  Am Hopfentor - this name is for sure proof that in this place was a turnstile, the northern boarder of historic town. Further it was Jasenitz Straße.
Today Kosciuszki Str. (former (Fuhrstr.) goes further, to the canal, and Jasienicka Str. (Jasenitzstr. goes to Jasenitz). From numbers of houses before II World War it results that conception of "street" ended on houses described in point 1. Further, to the north, were fields, across them was a highroad, up to beginning on village Duchow. During the war this area was military.

3. Precisely opposite to described buildings there were now houses. In area of juction of present  Kamienna Str. and Jasienicka str, where sven has it located. Closer to town, on opposite site to described in point 1. bulding, further from the street, were anti-aircraft cannon - FLAK.

4. The name of Kuckuck is for todays citizens unknow, it didn't endure to the end of war.

5. The place of "Kuckuck" yak hasn't found. It is difficult to do without photos or exact description. In this area is one old building on exuded plot. Going out from Police - the last building on the left side, in the yard - collection of old engines. Was it the centre of a farm? Maybe. Was it "Kuckuck? He doesn't know. Printscreen of sattelite's map -  http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/4636/karte126.jpg

6. In times of DDR, Germans where caming there (tak means this buldings by Jasenitz Str.), but when the saw polish owners - Germans were leaving this place quick. In modern times, near place where I probably located Kuckuck were seen Germans with metal detectors. It is a reason of your questions, sven?


1. Direction north, like the satellite image, this is correct.
4. Is there a land registry office with maps pre 1946 in Police? This should works.
5. Farm Kuckuck may been pulled down. Rest of houses on the right site are left. (basement)
6. Kuckuck was family property.

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Historia / [Police] Streets of Police in 1936
« dnia: Października 06, 2010, 22:04:12  »
Here is a list of the streets of Police in 1936 with crossroads and notes:

http://img180.imageshack.us/i/policeroads.gif/

Translation/Tłumaczenie: "Oto lista ulic w Policach w 1936 roku wraz ze skrzyżowaniami i notatkami."
Denver


[ Added: 2010-10-10, 16:00 ]
I begun a new computer generated map of Pölitz.
I discovered difficulties between the big Messtischblatt-Map and Maronns-Map.

Here is a part of mine:



Its based of the Messtischblatt. You can overlay it.

[ Added: 2010-10-12, 22:05 ]
Here is the 2nd version of my map. Nearly complete.



Watch out for mistakes.  :lol2:

[ Added: 2010-10-13, 21:25 ]
Next version, now with forest and important buildings:

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/6513/karte2.jpg

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